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Become a Successful Trader with Umar Ashraf

September 21, 2020 Dr. Jay Feldman / Umar Ashraf Season 2 Episode 26
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Sep 21, 2020 Season 2 Episode 26
Dr. Jay Feldman / Umar Ashraf

Want to quit your 9-5, work for 3 hours a day and buy Lamborghinis like Umar Ashraf? Well, it's not easy, but it's possible for anyone to do. In this episode, we interview the god of trading himself and he shares specific strategies that he uses to consistently win. What a journey it took for him to get here. You do not want to miss this.

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Show Notes Transcript

Want to quit your 9-5, work for 3 hours a day and buy Lamborghinis like Umar Ashraf? Well, it's not easy, but it's possible for anyone to do. In this episode, we interview the god of trading himself and he shares specific strategies that he uses to consistently win. What a journey it took for him to get here. You do not want to miss this.

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instagram.com/umarashraftrades

Support the show (https://mentorscollective.com/support)

Jay Feldman :

What is up everybody? Welcome to the mentors collective On this episode, I have something super special for you. And by popular request, as you know, on this show we like to give entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs, businessmen, the best from every field of business and money making. And right now we're going to talk with the expert, the king, the legend of trading Kumar ashcraft is joining us on the show today. Thank you so much for joining us. Mark. What's

Umar Ashraf :

going on? Jay? First and foremost, thank you so much for having me on. I've been I've heard a lot of great things about your show. And then you know, you reached out Yeah, 100% I'd love to be on it.

Jay Feldman :

Yeah, I think three people now have said you got to interview him, or he's gonna be an awesome guest. So I'm pumped. You said yes. I'm glad we were finally able to connect. And thank you for coming on here and delivering value for my audience. I know this is gonna be an awesome like, 3040 minutes conversation, because I'm super interested in this, this of it. I've like started to dip my toes into and you know how it goes. I mean, you you have a trading Academy, you teach this? There's a lot of bad information out there. There's a lot of people trying to scam with day trading. And I'm sure you've seen all of it. So just kind of give us your background, how long have you been trading? Give us how you went from zero to where you are now?

Umar Ashraf :

Sure. So I've been trading for a little over seven years now I started when I was 18. I'm 25 at a current moment, and I dipped into it just like everyone else, I wanted to make a lot of money jumped into trading and failed, like failed terribly right. And about seven years ago, there wasn't as much information out there. And there wasn't this whole group thing going on, right? So when I started, it was kind of like, okay, I want to learn, I want to make money. And I kept messing up. So two years go by, and I just kept losing money. And after two years, I just started improving, which I'll jump into. And then after that two year period, when I started making money, and I started doing well, people would reach out to me and say, Hey, can you help me out? Can you help me out? It would, it would just be friends and family. And then slowly I would help this person, I'll help that person out. And then that slowly turned into stock market lab, which is like the community that I have. And then once that grew that just you know, took off on its own, like, I never imagined that I would be teaching anything like, just never imagined that at all. So when trading started doing better, that's when that community started. The main thing about that, which I'll jump into too, is just, you know, kind of providing people real information and not telling them like, hey, with to chart patterns, you can make $10 million, like that's not real, right? Like actually go into the reality of trading, which isn't that great. You know, so that's where the idea that came in. But like I said, I've been trading for seven years, switch to a lot of different strategies and ways to trade. And finally found the way I trade which is, you know, scalping really quick, weekly expiration options, or sometimes just trading stocks that are going into momentum on the upper downside. And just trying to capture that one or two good play a day. And just take it from there. Awesome. And all the stuff you said at the end there kind of just went right over my head. So let's kind of start

Jay Feldman :

from scratch with people who are, you know, kind of like me or want to get into trading? I would love to start with your first two years that weren't successful. Where did you pick up trading? And what was that like battling through kind of those those tough years? I've heard the same thing about day traders. It's scary. It's scary out there. And a lot of people don't sign up and are successful right away. Does you want to give up? When did you finally you know, break the losing streak, per se or like a win, lose and find a pattern and really find your rhythm?

Umar Ashraf :

Sure. So like I said, it took me about two years. But I think the first two years my biggest problem was that I wasn't actually accepting the fact that I have to give this time. See the problem with trading is that anyone can open up an account tomorrow with no knowledge from their account and trade fail and say our trading isn't good. You know, with more most careers, you need an education, you need some experience to actually dive into that career. We need some licenses trading, you don't need any of that. So when I started it was like oh, if I only caught this play if I only caught that play, I would have made X amount of money. So I think a the patience aspect and understanding aspect that this is going to take time to actually get good at didn't kick in. And then the second aspect was I didn't focus on any sort of strategy. Like I didn't know what I was doing. My thing was just wake up buy a stock hopefully cross my fingers pray goes up and make money, you know, which happens sometimes but there wasn't any real strategy or set of information behind it. So and I you know, when that happened, and I would lose money I constantly wanted to quit because you know, people get into ear and say man trading it's not good. You know, whatever you do, this isn't good. You go get a nine to five go do this, go do that. So that definitely got to me at certain points. Absolutely. And I've seen a lot of people trying to sell me over the years and learn how to day trade sign up for this course give me this money on manage it. Talk to me a little bit some of the bad information that's out there for people who are learning how to trade and then some of the good information you know, what worked for you and what do you deliver in your course. So first, I don't think anyone like if you want to be successful in anything, I don't think you need to go buy a course I think you can do it on your own. But if you buy a course or program from someone that's successful, two things that will cut down your learning curve, it will cut out all the noise that you know you hear do this do that you'll get the proper information. And then the second thing with the course and I showcase this a lot if you're buying anything from anyone via e commerce trading, you know in real estate, make sure you have them show you statements right and i think that's The biggest thing that is going to differentiate, you know, people in this industry like for example, everyone that signs up I tell them if you want to see my statement, you want to see my year to date I even post an Instagram, not a screenshot not anything, me actually logging into my account showing a seven figure plus profit, right? So it's like if someone comes to you, and they're like, Hey, I'll teach you how to sell on Amazon. I'll teach you how to trade. Cool. Are you making money? Yeah, yeah. Okay, show me I don't want to see a screenshot. I don't want to see Photoshop, I want to see you log into your trading account. And I want to see your profit and loss date. Right. So in my situation, I'm showing that so it's like, I made money. I didn't just pick up a book and I'm trying to give you that information.

Jay Feldman :

Yeah, absolutely. And what just popped into my head, sorry, I'm sitting here smiling. Show me the money. I popped on your Instagram and I'm in love with that Lamborghini, do you say show me the money? Show me the success? I mean, obviously, you've been successful trading. And I'm sure people trust you.

Umar Ashraf :

Because I see you brought brought brought the car, I want to bring something up the car, by the way, please don't look at someone's car or what they show on Instagram to dictate if they are successful in that field. I know so many people on Instagram, or in general that owns so many cool things. And they sell a program right? Don't let that be the selling point. Just because I have a cool car. If someone has a cool car or a cool house or something, don't say oh, this person is successful because he or she has a cool car. in this industry. 99% of people are making money from courses not the actual thing that they're doing. So cool. Someone has a Bugatti great, you know, show me that you made money not from courses, but from the service that you actually do.

Jay Feldman :

You know, I mean, figure out who the experts are, sometimes it's tough to because you see all of these, you know, e commerce experts and trading experts showing screenshots of you know, profits or sales. I mean, anyone can post those screenshots. So how do you really cipher through the bullshit to find

Umar Ashraf :

the real experts? And I guess you said it already. Show me the standards. People lie numbers don't lie. You can't fake that. You can go Lisa Lambo, you can go fake stuff on Instagram, but you can't fake an actual statement. That's a video. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.

Jay Feldman :

And if there's, you know, one huge takeaway from this, because this is something that's never been brought up on the show, figure out who the experts are, and you automatically probably won't get conned. Well, by any bullshit programs. That's a great way to do it. Awesome stuff right there.

Umar Ashraf :

Just one more thing for people trying to do anything via e commerce, real estate trading. Having a mentor, having someone that has success in that industry is really going to boost you up. Because even with myself, like I'm starting a sass company right now, and I there's so many things I don't know. And there are people that I have paid, that have performed well in the past. And that has saved me countless amount of time and money in the future, just because they were able to provide me insight and feedback on what I'm doing right now. So don't be afraid of finding a mentor or finding someone that's an expert in the field and paying them because that's going to save you a lot of money and time in the long, long run. But make sure they actually know what they're talking about.

Jay Feldman :

Absolutely. And I want to talk a little bit about your your SAS trading program a little bit after but I kind of want to hover on this mentorship thing for a minute. Because even for me, I know I offer mentorship to people. I'm part of mentorship group. So people who are more successful than I am your trading platform, your trading community. Talk to me a little bit about that you do one on one mentoring? Do you do group

Umar Ashraf :

trading courses? How would you suggest somebody who's interested in trading, find a trading mentor and join one of these communities, my program itself, I have an online course. And then I have webinars and stuff that you can tune in to ask me questions. And then I have a group chat where I go over my place. But my community community is focused on making you a self sufficient trader, and not bringing in people that are like, Oh, I want to see what you're trading and I want to copy you. Our goal is to help you become a trader on your own. So when you go out on your own, you're you're able to learn and take everything from there. Now by no means am I saying we're the best? Like Obviously, I'm going to say that but go out. do your own research. Look at me look at other people, but whoever you go with being in any industry, once again, make sure you see statements make sure you see okay, I want to trade how he trades Can I day trade, can I scalp you also want to figure that out when you're gone with the community. We focus on day trading, we focus on scalping. Now, if you're someone that's like I want to, you know, invest long term, then don't go with this community. That's also what you got to, you know, understand, like how you're going to trade what you're going to trade. And then once you narrow down into the person or the community, then say, you know what this is it, I want to see proof. And that's about it.

Jay Feldman :

Absolutely love that.

Umar Ashraf :

And I'm assuming there's a lot of different strategies that people use to be successful and make money trading. You talk to me a little bit about those and a little bit about your strategy for people who are more experienced, I'm probably not gonna understand this, but I'm going to do my best. First and foremost, I trade the same names every day. I trade big names like apple, Amazon, Facebook, Google, like I trade the big names every day, I don't wake up do a pre market scan, trading penny stocks, it's just the same names. Now within those same names. I'm typically looking for something called a gap play or something that has momentum or some sort of catalyst event, like Apple just had their event. Facebook just got into some lawsuit, whatever event is happening that may drive the stock up or down because if there's something that's happening around that company like Tesla's having their event soon to those type of events or those type of catalysts, fuel up the stock and give it momentum. To go up or down. So my main focus is to look within my set of stocks, what stock is setting up for a good play, identify the demand and supply zones on the chart. And then once I identify that, wait for my setup that, hey, if Tesla breaks, for example, 500, it could possibly have a nice squeeze to 555 60. But if I get in at 500, how much money am I risking? Okay, I'm comfortable and risking $1,000 to make 3000. Right, so then that's where the money management kicks in. So you know, when you kind of put all those pieces together, and you get comfortable, it just comes down to being patient and waiting for that setup that you have outlined come to you, most people have the setups, but when it doesn't come to them, they force it. And that's where psychology kicks in. And that's where people start messing up and just going on like a crazy till that starts affecting their trading.

Jay Feldman :

Yes, I'm a junior investor, myself, and everything that you said actually made a lot of sense. So good job explaining that I totally understand. not totally, but I mostly understand it. Psychology plays a huge role for me to selling and getting it at the right time and getting out at the right time. It's so many mind games and little dialogues going on inside your head. And I'm sure it takes a special kind of person to control that and stick to your strategy stick to your guns no matter what. So just to kind of clarify, you watch the news, or whatever your source of news is, whether it be Twitter, or, you know, financial analyst reports, when you see that hit, you're like, Okay, this is a good piece of news, there's a good chance that stocks gonna go up, I'm gonna make a bet on that stock. That's it.

Umar Ashraf :

In some terms, it's that simple. And in other terms, sometimes there may not be any news, and the stock may just go up because there's a lot of buying pressure. Right now. That's where you're looking at the overall markets kick in. So for me, I look at spy, right, which is an ETF for the s&p 500. And I look at NASDAQ, right, just to understand how is the market doing how's the technology sector doing? So if that's rallying, and that's going into all time highs, like it has been recently, and I see a certain stock, like let's just say Facebook, right on Monday, I traded Facebook, and Facebook was breaking key levels alongside with NASDAQ and spy. So that's adding momentum to these names. And all I'm looking for is one or two point move, I'm not looking for a 10 or 20% move in the stock, right? Because when I'm trading options, a $1 move on Facebook, you know, on weekly explorations can and have paid 20 to 40% just on a good trait to me so that it just comes down to that and just being comfortable and understanding the strategy. And I think the hardest part is sitting on your hands when that plate isn't present. And that's where like the first two years that was like a major mistake I made. It wasn't that I didn't know the information after certain point. It was that I didn't know how to apply the information. And I didn't know when to take a seat and say you know what, don't trade today don't trade there's nothing present. I would just trade every day because you're you know, you're in front of the computer. And you'll you have an itch to hit by yourself. And that just starts messing with you.

Jay Feldman :

I would love to follow up on that. What is kind of the day to day life like as a trader? Are you watching for screens for 12 hours a day like waiting for something to hit waiting for a move? Or are you part of like a group of other traders? Maybe you take turns be like alright, like buy this now big nose? What's your day to day like, brother?

Umar Ashraf :

Sure. So since I'm in California, my day as a trader would start early at 5am, because the market here open 6:30am. So I typically like to be in front of a computer about an hour to 30 minutes before just to see everything overall to see what's happening. What's moving, what are the market news, what are the stock news, and I'm watching what stock is moving in the pre market just so I have a good idea right now when the market opens at 6:30am. I do have four screens, you probably see it back there. That's not at all. So I have four screens. Now when people see four screens like Well, well, why do you have four screens, and never really using all four, I'm only focused on one screen. But I have the four screens open just so I can see like the whole playground. So I can see what's happening. It's like kind of like sitting at the top watching everything. And then when you find one opportunity, you take that and you just focus on that one screen, it's not like constant just going crazy looking at four screens and just, you know burning myself out. So when I look at that one screen, I'm just focused on finding a good entry finding a good exit and capitalizing on that now I don't sit in front of a computer from 6:30am till 1pm 1pm when the market closes in, you know pacific time, because I feel like at that point, you're just gonna burn yourself out as a trader because you know, we use our mind a lot we have to think processed very quickly. So if you're in front of a computer, just trading for multiple hours, you're gonna burn out like I burn out. So I try to have a cut off time. Hey, by 9am and get up and walk away, go get breakfast, go do something because if I sit here all day, I'm just gonna burn through money. Some days I'll sit until 10 or 11 if the market is really hot, and there's a lot of opportunities. Some days I'm in front of a computer at 630 till 730 and I'm done right so because you don't know how the market is going to be until the market opens and starts showing you stuff that's like where nobody went to get up knowing when to walk away from the computer having a cut off time because if I sit here until 1pm from one aspect Yes, I could technically make money all day but then my project Farming starts decreasing throughout the whole, you know, X amount hours.

Jay Feldman :

Yeah, and it's so psychological. So you got to make sure you're in a prime psychological state where you're trading overall sounds like a pretty decent lifestyle, if you're good at it, if you can win at it. That's if

Umar Ashraf :

you are, I think if you have self control and discipline, you can make a good living out of this. But if you don't have self control or discipline, you can have a very hard time. How much

Jay Feldman :

money would you recommend Somebody save up or have before they decide, Okay, you know what, I'm going to try trading full time, this is the money I'm going to go in with and try and make a living out of this and grow

Umar Ashraf :

it. So first thing I think, for anyone to be at that comfortable stage, it's gonna take you besides money, one year, at least, on a fair scale, one year, maybe even two years, right? I have seen people do it in seven months, I've seen people do it in six months, but on average about a year, so I think don't hold yourself back and say I need X amount of money to start, just start and start learning from day one. So that one year time gap can be covered. Now, when you do want to trade, I think you have to factor certain things in number one, when you're trading that. And let's just say if that's your only source of income, you don't want to live month to month, because some days or some months in the market, you'll make a ton of money. And some other months, you won't make any money because the market is not presenting opportunities. So you should have in my opinion, six months, maybe a year worth of savings, that can pay your bills, right, that's more so let's just say hypothetically, your bills are 10 grand a month, and you're like, I'm not gonna work. First thing 60 grand to the side that you can tap into just to pay your bills, or just to pay your day to day expenses. Because you don't ever want to be in a situation where I need to pay rent this month, I need to pay for this, we'll pay for that. And then you start forcing trades. Now once that's out of the way, the second thing is, I think on a comfortable level, it comes down to what you're trading and how you're trading, if you're trading options, I think if you have 30 grand you can make with proper risk management not being super aggressive, you can make 500 to two grand a day. And I've seen people do it right. And the reason I say 30 grand is because if you're below 25,000, you are under the PDT rule, where you can only take three day trades in the span of five business days, unless you have a cash account for an options account, which is just gets complicated. But just having above 25,000 is going to give you unlimited capacity to trade as many times as you want. That's someone I'd be at least at 30,000 to consider it full time not saying you need 30,000 go trade, but to full time, you know, actually take it as a trader, then it goes to if you're trading equities, and you're really trading big names like apple, Amazon, I would tell these 50 to 100 grand, because now you're drafted, put in more money to make a small return for options. But I mean for stocks, but options you can make 10 to 20% on, you know, a smaller amount invested. And then just that process is going to take at least a year, maybe a year and a half, two years. Gotcha. And your style is trading big name, you know, blue chip stocks. That's what they're called. There's another way to trade the penny stocks that you can invest in with little smaller money but a little more risky. Is that right? Is that kind of like a separation of choice? Yeah, I think there's no right or wrong. I'm not saying penny stocks are bad or you know, big names are better. But a crypto. Yeah, like my preference is just trading the big names like I know people that trade penny stocks and do very well. So if that's what aligns with you, I don't like touching penny stocks. I'm not a fan of them. Personally, I'd rather touch the big names like apple, Amazon, Facebook, and so on and trade those every day instead of waking up and finding the hottest penny stock and trying to capitalize on that move. And this is the same thing I hear from any expert who's actually been successful trading, you know, whether it be forex, or crypto or stocks is master one thing, find a strategy that works and don't deviate. If it works and you know it stick to it as they

Jay Feldman :

try to trade a whole bunch of different things just going to get you in trouble.

Umar Ashraf :

Yeah, people ask me. Oh, why don't you trade crypto? Why don't you trade forex punish me? Why would I take my focus off something that I'm doing well in and divide that attention amongst other, you know, securities? Like it's just, it's just gonna, you know, split me thin. And it's like, that's not a good idea.

Jay Feldman :

Yes, absolutely. And that's another huge takeaway. I think people could I get the same thing. Oh, why don't you just take all your money invested in forex? Like, I don't know anything about forex? Like, what do you think of it to put this money or it's all gonna go in the trash can but awesome. That's really great stuff. So talk to me a little bit about the SAS platform. I went on the Instagram page, I took a look around, it's probably going to be more for it's a trading SAS platform. Am I correct?

Umar Ashraf :

Correct. So it's a trading tool. So one of the biggest things that I saw that helped me as a trader was when I started journaling, when you're like in front of your computer, before the market opens. And then when you're actually about to execute the trade, you're two different people, right? So right now you can be from any computer and you can research and you can look at Apple, you can look at Facebook, whatever. And you can say tomorrow, I'm going to do X, Y and Z If this happens, but when tomorrow comes no matter what your game plan was, you become a different person. So the biggest thing I saw is when you start journaling, your thought process from A to Z in the trade but before the trade after the trade, and you factor in not just the technical side, but also the emotional side. You start learning a lot about yourself, such as what days do I trade well on what securities do I trade while on right? What's my best time timeframe? Oh, every time from 11am to 12pm. I'm losing money. How do I trade when spy is up? How do I spec trade when the market is doing this, like, you know when you go into deep insights. So the idea of the SAS platform, which is called trade Zilla, is it's supposed to give you feedback. So it's kind of like Siri and Apple, right? Like Siri has Apple, Amazon has Alexa. So for trading, we're trying to come up with something called Zillow, and Zillow, his job is to take your information and say, Hey, Jay, this is the strategy that makes you the most money. This is the strategy that doesn't work. Based on your risk. This trade was good, this was a bad trade, right? And it really goes into insights. Because I see people where they'll get into a trade, they'll make, let's say, $1,000 in that trade. And they'll say, Yeah, I made a grand. But at one point, you were down $6,000, you're down 60% on that trade. So that doesn't make it a good trade. You know, you put up too much risk, cool, it worked this time. But if you keep it up, in the long run, you're not going to do well, you're going to burn your account. So the idea is just to give you that feedback, give you insights on your trading performance, allow you to journal write notes. And just also we're planning on building a community. So you can see what Jay traded what I traded with this person traded and their thought process. So it becomes as a learning community alongside with a tracking tool.

Jay Feldman :

That's awesome. Helping traders kind of master the mind, and gather the thought process of the best traders that maybe even you know, combine those into a super trading tool. I love it. Thank you. If I was a trader, I would be way more excited. But I'm excited for you as well. Thank you.

Umar Ashraf :

All right, just some final pieces of advice for people who want to learn how to trade or getting into it hit me with your you know, the best piece of wisdom for trading. And you know, what do you tell your students? So I tell everyone that you know, number one, focus in your journey. Understand that getting into this understanding the career just like anything else, it's going to take time, don't skip steps, don't say, Oh, this person started six months ago, I need to be good at six months, it might take you nine months, it might take you a year. Like it took me two years. Right. So from what most people now that are part of our community, they're trading well under two years. So just focus on your way of trading. Focus on your journey. And alongside with that journey, just focus on the process, don't focus on money. A lot of people that trade in or any industry, they focus too much on the money aspect. And they say, Oh, I need to make X amount of money. Great. We all want to make money. But if you focus on the process, and you will focus on the skill and you become good at it, the money's just gonna come and knock on your door and show up and it's just going to show up in an abundance of mouth. Right? So So those would be two things just keep focusing on the process. And no matter how good you think you are, you can always go higher you can always get better you can always get better each and every single day.

Jay Feldman :

That's amazing advice. Awesome, Omar. And for everyone watching this episode. You got to check this out on Instagram. What kind of Lamborghini is that? What model is it? It's an Aventador SV offensive door SV. I gotta get me one of those things. How fast Have you gone in it?

Umar Ashraf :

This one Not so fast. I'm kind of scared to go fast in it. Um, I won't be too Yeah, I think like 121 30 but the McLaren I did about 190 but that's when I was young.

Jay Feldman :

Gotcha. Was that your old

Umar Ashraf :

car? I know I have that car that's like my daily now the McLaren that's what I gotcha day Yeah,

Jay Feldman :

poor thing. I love it for anyone who's watching you got to go check out this guy's car I've never seen anything like it looks like the Batmobile.

Umar Ashraf :

Yeah that was the goal that was how you know

Jay Feldman :

what I was going for. I be scared to get in that thing so low and expensive. Yeah

Umar Ashraf :

it's scary especially when you hit a pothole sometimes you go shake yet

Jay Feldman :

I'm assuming you shipped it from Florida to California

Umar Ashraf :

yeah when I when I came here I shipped out in the beginning down here I had to I was like

Jay Feldman :

you're not drive nothing. Yeah.

Umar Ashraf :

All right, Lamar. For anyone listening where's the best place to connect with your brother on Instagram? I'm pretty active on Instagram. You guys can check out my Instagram I'm also getting more active on YouTube can be posting a lot of trading content personal content, but if you guys have any questions just reach out to me on my Instagram. I also have a trading Instagram. Just DM me and you know, whenever I get on Instagram, I try to reply to people as much as possible and try to take it from there.

Jay Feldman :

Thank you, brother. I'm excited for your YouTube channel. Honestly, you're a great teacher. Everything that you kind of told me I understood. So thank you so much for coming on the show. I mean, you You're the God of training, I'm probably not going to have to do another trading episode or interview ever again. So thank you so much for joining me anyone head over to Mr. Ashraf mental link in the show notes. I thank you for watching this episode of mentors collective if you loved it, grab a screenshot. Share it on your Instagram send you a free t shirt. Omar. Thank you so much.

Umar Ashraf :

Thank you, man for having me. Absolutely. I just got to Boston.

Jay Feldman :

I'm gonna go have dinner with the fam my dog has been dropping the ball behind me. But thanks again.

Umar Ashraf :

And we'll connect soon, brother. Thank you, man. Take care. Appreciate it.

Jay Feldman :

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